To that one willingly deluded MAGAt: If we were truly still a Nation of Laws, we wouldn't have a felon in the White House, selling the United States piece by piece. You don't want a nation of laws; you just want to continue hating people and persecuting those who don't look, talk, and think like you do.
Such people will not listen to anyone they consider a stranger. Or a lapsed family member. They might listen to a pastor, or another valued speaker within their own communities. Will they listen to a POC or a woman who was nice to them but refused to accept their sexual advances or unwanted attentions? No. Will they listen to a white man if they like the cut of his jib? Maybe. It would have to be someone with a silver tongue, the gift of gab, with charisma at heightened levels. Apparently, asking someone to search their hearts and change them is asking a whole lot. Perhaps too much.
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I'm so grateful for The Moral High Ground. Keep writing and speaking out, Evan!
A-fucking-men, Evan! Very well said, and the reports of what the maladministration's thugs are doing to the innocent is heartbreaking, while the reports of those who cheer the thugs and even those who are starting to question the thugs, is infuriating.
BTW, if the assholes really want the criminals off the streets and the illegals deported, why did they vote for a criminal (TACO) instead of demanding that he be jailed for his crimes, and why aren't they demanding Illegal Elon's deportation? We know the answer - they aren't just assholes, they are racists.
It makes sense nabbing folks peacefully following instructions by going to meetings at immigration offices rather than seeking gang members with guns and knives spoiling for a fight. Gang members might hurt or kill ICE. Those following the rules are a safe bet to pad their numbers
“Trump said criminals would be targeted”, again it’s a YOU problem if you did not know Trump fucking lies, and by the way what else are you fucking wrong about?
How in the hell can this regime call themselves Christians. And that depraved Vance should be excommunicated. I am ashamed that he converted to Catholicism.
Except it's not usually "She's like us", it's "She's one of the GOOD ONES." You know, the ones that serve them nicely and with a smile. The ones that know their place.
As far as some of those interviewees go - if you're happy with everything this administration has done, perhaps with the sole exception of detaining the person you happened to know personally, if you're happy with all of the fallout from the USAID shutdown alone, you can take a long walk off a short pier, and land in the deepest depths of the worst hell your sick little mind can dream up.
Because, otherwise, they'd have to admit that they were wrong, that they were played AND face the derision of the other cult members. Much easier to double down and hope for the best. Besides, it all comes down to Jesus in the end, right?
If you voted for Trump in 2016, I can maybe MAYBE give you a pass. You're still a moron, at best, but if you got hoodwinked, OK, sure.
If you voted for Trump in 2024, then you can fuck straight off into the sun because you are clearly a horrible, horrible person. Full stop. No redemption.
I was listening to The Bulwark and someone noted that Trump voters all seem to share a trauma bond... some sort of skick glee when they gang up on people... a shared sense of togetherness.
Then... their neighbor gets taken and they didn't mean that to happen (not that it matters) and then they feel dumb... but... at that moment how do we both hold them accountable and hold space for change? They ain't never gonna cop to the hate... so what do we do?
Thanks for this. I've read so many comments from folks defending these voters, with some variation of "they voted because of inflation, not to deport moms." And that line of thinking--that voters aren't responsible for the the policies of the people they elect is one reason we're in so much trouble. We have complete decoupled voting from governance and responsible citizenship. It's not the same as voting for American Idol or rooting for your sportsball team. If you vote for someone who tells you they're going to do A through Z policies, but you only agree with A, Q, and R, you are still voting for the rest of the alphabet. That's precisely the thing about voting--you are voting for all the policies espoused by that person even the parts you disagree with because you've decided that the disagreement isn't a dealbreaker. When voters balance all Trump said he was going to do to hurt people, they don't get to claim "but I only voted for lower prices and not the 100 other things he said he would do." Because they made a choice that those prices were more important than all the other issues. It works for Dems too. I would have voted for Biden (and did vote for Harris). I don't, for instance, support the way Biden handled Gaza. But balanced with everything else, he was a better choice than Trump and thus, I could be correctly accused of voting for his Gaza policy (though, I would have been rallying against it nonetheless). We are responsible for our votes. We are responsible for the balance we strike and the choice we make about what matters (and for working to create better choices). We are responsible for what the people we elect do. We have to stop pretending elections are not tied to governance. Indeed, governance is the entire fucking point.
To that one willingly deluded MAGAt: If we were truly still a Nation of Laws, we wouldn't have a felon in the White House, selling the United States piece by piece. You don't want a nation of laws; you just want to continue hating people and persecuting those who don't look, talk, and think like you do.
Such people will not listen to anyone they consider a stranger. Or a lapsed family member. They might listen to a pastor, or another valued speaker within their own communities. Will they listen to a POC or a woman who was nice to them but refused to accept their sexual advances or unwanted attentions? No. Will they listen to a white man if they like the cut of his jib? Maybe. It would have to be someone with a silver tongue, the gift of gab, with charisma at heightened levels. Apparently, asking someone to search their hearts and change them is asking a whole lot. Perhaps too much.
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I'm so grateful for The Moral High Ground. Keep writing and speaking out, Evan!
I wish there was a way to give Carol her life back without giving her back to those assholes. They don’t deserve her.
The first vote for TFG may have been an aberration. The 2nd vote was deliberate. They KNEW who and what they were voting for.
I hope any legal immigrant has zero to do with any of them. They stink of lies and hypocrisy.
And stupidity.
There’s no fixing that.
Most of them voted for him *three* times. They wuz robbed in 2020, you see.
He showed how horrible he is long before it was time to vote. I am not generous enough to call it an aberration.
𝑆𝑜 𝑦𝑒𝑠, 𝑙𝑒𝑡 𝑢𝑠 𝑠ℎ𝑜𝑤 𝑔𝑟𝑎𝑐𝑒 𝑤ℎ𝑒𝑛 𝑤𝑒 𝑐𝑎𝑛, 𝑖𝑓 𝑤𝑒 𝑐𝑎𝑛, 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑙𝑒𝑡 𝑢𝑠 𝑓𝑖𝑛𝑑 𝑡𝑒𝑎𝑐ℎ𝑎𝑏𝑙𝑒 𝑚𝑜𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑠 𝑤ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑦 𝑔𝑒𝑛𝑢𝑖𝑛𝑒𝑙𝑦 𝑒𝑥𝑖𝑠𝑡. 𝐵𝑢𝑡 𝑑𝑜 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑙𝑒𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑠𝑒 𝑎𝑠𝑠ℎ𝑜𝑙𝑒𝑠 𝑔𝑒𝑡 𝑎𝑤𝑎𝑦 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑘𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑤ℎ𝑎𝑡 ℎ𝑎𝑝𝑝𝑒𝑛𝑒𝑑 𝑡𝑜 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑜𝑛𝑒 𝑖𝑚𝑚𝑖𝑔𝑟𝑎𝑛𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑦 𝑙𝑖𝑘𝑒 𝑖𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑒𝑥𝑐𝑒𝑝𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑡𝑜 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑟𝑢𝑙𝑒.
𝐼𝑡’𝑠 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑎 𝑡𝑒𝑎𝑐ℎ𝑎𝑏𝑙𝑒 𝑚𝑜𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑖𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑏𝑎𝑠𝑡𝑎𝑟𝑑𝑠 𝑑𝑜𝑛’𝑡 𝑙𝑒𝑎𝑟𝑛 𝑎 𝑓𝑢𝑐𝑘𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑔.
𝐴𝑛𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑖𝑠 𝑤ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝐼 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑡𝑜 𝑠𝑎𝑦 𝑎𝑏𝑜𝑢𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑜𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑜𝑛𝑒-𝑦𝑒𝑎𝑟 𝑎𝑛𝑛𝑖𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑠𝑎𝑟𝑦 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑠 ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒 𝑙𝑖𝑡𝑡𝑙𝑒 𝑝𝑖𝑠𝑠𝑒𝑑 𝑜𝑓𝑓 𝑛𝑒𝑤𝑠𝑙𝑒𝑡𝑡𝑒𝑟.
A-fucking-men, Evan! Very well said, and the reports of what the maladministration's thugs are doing to the innocent is heartbreaking, while the reports of those who cheer the thugs and even those who are starting to question the thugs, is infuriating.
BTW, if the assholes really want the criminals off the streets and the illegals deported, why did they vote for a criminal (TACO) instead of demanding that he be jailed for his crimes, and why aren't they demanding Illegal Elon's deportation? We know the answer - they aren't just assholes, they are racists.
Congrats on your first anniversary!
It makes sense nabbing folks peacefully following instructions by going to meetings at immigration offices rather than seeking gang members with guns and knives spoiling for a fight. Gang members might hurt or kill ICE. Those following the rules are a safe bet to pad their numbers
Exactly. That was my first thought. Quite literally a trap.
“Trump said criminals would be targeted”, again it’s a YOU problem if you did not know Trump fucking lies, and by the way what else are you fucking wrong about?
How in the hell can this regime call themselves Christians. And that depraved Vance should be excommunicated. I am ashamed that he converted to Catholicism.
I'm thinking he converted to Opus Dei.
Right as always, Paul.
Good to see you Natalie
Hello dear, my love to you and Holly, and the tuxedo kittehs.
I don't ever give racists slack. They don't deserve my grace.
Try being subjected to that shit because you don't have a white family.
They are everywhere. They used to try to hide or spout shit like "not our Carol" (who they won't be inconvenienced to help), but it's posturing.
Fuck them.
Except it's not usually "She's like us", it's "She's one of the GOOD ONES." You know, the ones that serve them nicely and with a smile. The ones that know their place.
"...a rural town where the population is declining and the only hospital has closed.'
Coming soon to every town near you.
As far as some of those interviewees go - if you're happy with everything this administration has done, perhaps with the sole exception of detaining the person you happened to know personally, if you're happy with all of the fallout from the USAID shutdown alone, you can take a long walk off a short pier, and land in the deepest depths of the worst hell your sick little mind can dream up.
Because, otherwise, they'd have to admit that they were wrong, that they were played AND face the derision of the other cult members. Much easier to double down and hope for the best. Besides, it all comes down to Jesus in the end, right?
If you voted for Trump in 2016, I can maybe MAYBE give you a pass. You're still a moron, at best, but if you got hoodwinked, OK, sure.
If you voted for Trump in 2024, then you can fuck straight off into the sun because you are clearly a horrible, horrible person. Full stop. No redemption.
I was listening to The Bulwark and someone noted that Trump voters all seem to share a trauma bond... some sort of skick glee when they gang up on people... a shared sense of togetherness.
Then... their neighbor gets taken and they didn't mean that to happen (not that it matters) and then they feel dumb... but... at that moment how do we both hold them accountable and hold space for change? They ain't never gonna cop to the hate... so what do we do?
Amen
Let the bells ring out the alarm! The old ways of thinking must go. The old fears must be thrown away.
Congratulations on a year of telling it like it is.
Thanks for this. I've read so many comments from folks defending these voters, with some variation of "they voted because of inflation, not to deport moms." And that line of thinking--that voters aren't responsible for the the policies of the people they elect is one reason we're in so much trouble. We have complete decoupled voting from governance and responsible citizenship. It's not the same as voting for American Idol or rooting for your sportsball team. If you vote for someone who tells you they're going to do A through Z policies, but you only agree with A, Q, and R, you are still voting for the rest of the alphabet. That's precisely the thing about voting--you are voting for all the policies espoused by that person even the parts you disagree with because you've decided that the disagreement isn't a dealbreaker. When voters balance all Trump said he was going to do to hurt people, they don't get to claim "but I only voted for lower prices and not the 100 other things he said he would do." Because they made a choice that those prices were more important than all the other issues. It works for Dems too. I would have voted for Biden (and did vote for Harris). I don't, for instance, support the way Biden handled Gaza. But balanced with everything else, he was a better choice than Trump and thus, I could be correctly accused of voting for his Gaza policy (though, I would have been rallying against it nonetheless). We are responsible for our votes. We are responsible for the balance we strike and the choice we make about what matters (and for working to create better choices). We are responsible for what the people we elect do. We have to stop pretending elections are not tied to governance. Indeed, governance is the entire fucking point.